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	<blockquote>Vac was before all creation, preexisting before any being came to be.... Vac is the life-giving principle within all beings.... She has a feminine characteristic of complementarity, a mediatorial role, and a certain feminine docility and obedience. She needs always to be uttered, by men, by Gods, or by the Creator himself.... [The Vedic Word] is ultimately as important as Brahman and, in a way that has to be properly understood, it is Brahman itself.<ref>Raimundo Panikkar, ''The Vedic Experience. Mantramañjari: An Anthology of the Vedas for Modern Man and Contemporary Celebration'' (Los Angeles: University of California Press, 1977), pp. 106, 96, 107, 89).</ref></blockquote>		<blockquote>Vac was before all creation, preexisting before any being came to be.... Vac is the life-giving principle within all beings.... She has a feminine characteristic of complementarity, a mediatorial role, and a certain feminine docility and obedience. She needs always to be uttered, by men, by Gods, or by the Creator himself.... [The Vedic Word] is ultimately as important as Brahman and, in a way that has to be properly understood, it is Brahman itself.<ref>Raimundo Panikkar, ''The Vedic Experience. Mantramañjari: An Anthology of the Vedas for Modern Man and Contemporary Celebration'' (Los Angeles: University of California Press, 1977), pp. 106, 96, 107, 89).</ref></blockquote>

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	Panikkar also notes that ~~“Vac~~ was before all creation, preexisting before any being came to be.... Vac is the life-giving principle within all beings.... She has a feminine characteristic of complementarity, a mediatorial role, and a certain feminine docility and obedience. She needs always to be uttered, by men, by Gods, or by the Creator himself.... [The Vedic Word] is ultimately as important as Brahman and, in a way that has to be properly understood, it is Brahman itself.”<ref>Raimundo Panikkar, ''The Vedic Experience. Mantramañjari: An Anthology of the Vedas for Modern Man and Contemporary Celebration'' (Los Angeles: University of California Press, 1977), pp. 106, 96, 107, 89).</ref>		Panikkar also notes that

			<blockquote>Vac was before all creation, preexisting before any being came to be.... Vac is the life-giving principle within all beings.... She has a feminine characteristic of complementarity, a mediatorial role, and a certain feminine docility and obedience. She needs always to be uttered, by men, by Gods, or by the Creator himself.... [The Vedic Word] is ultimately as important as Brahman and, in a way that has to be properly understood, it is Brahman itself.<ref>Raimundo Panikkar, ''The Vedic Experience. Mantramañjari: An Anthology of the Vedas for Modern Man and Contemporary Celebration'' (Los Angeles: University of California Press, 1977), pp. 106, 96, 107, 89).</ref></blockquote>

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	<blockquote>These are the very words of Veda. ''Prajapatir vai idam ~~ast~~'': In the beginning was Brahman. ''Tasya vag ~~dvitya ast~~''; with whom was Vak or the Word (She is spoken of as second to Him because She is first potentially in, and then as [[Shakti]] issues from Him); ''Vag vai paramam Brahma''; and the word is Brahman. Vak is thus a Shakti or Power of the Brahman.... This Shakti which was in Him is at the creation with Him, and evolves into the form of the Universe whilst still remaining what It is—the Supreme ~~Shakti”~~ who is ~~“one~~ with Brahman.”<ref>Arthur Avalon, ''The Garland of Letters'' (Pondicherry, India: Ganesh & Co., n.d.), pp. ~~4–5~~.</ref></blockquote>		<blockquote>These are the very words of Veda. ''Prajapatir vai idam asit'': In the beginning was Brahman. ''Tasya vag dvitiya asit''; with whom was Vak or the Word; (She is spoken of as second to Him because She is first potentially in, and then as [[Shakti]] issues from Him); ''Vag vai paramam Brahma''; and the word is Brahman. Vak is thus a Shakti or Power of the Brahman.... This Shakti which was in Him is at the creation with Him, and evolves into the form of the Universe whilst still remaining what It is—the Supreme Shakti ... [who is] one with Brahman.<ref>Arthur Avalon, ''The Garland of Letters'' (Pondicherry, India: Ganesh & Co., n.d.), pp. 4, 5.</ref></blockquote>

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	Hindu texts refer to Vac as the wife or consort of the Creator “who contains within herself all worlds.” [[Sarasvati]], the consort of [[Brahma]] and goddess of language, speech, wisdom and art, is identified with Vac in the Mahabharata and later Hindu tradition. Quoting the Brahmaas, author Raimundo Panikkar writes that Vac “is truly ‘the womb of the universe.’ For ‘by that Word of his, by that self, he created all this, whatever there is.’”		Hindu texts refer to Vac as the wife or consort of the Creator “who contains within herself all worlds.” [[Sarasvati]], the consort of [[Brahma]] and goddess of language, speech, wisdom and art, is identified with Vac in the Mahabharata and later Hindu tradition. Quoting the Brahmaas, author Raimundo Panikkar writes that Vac “is truly ‘the womb of the universe.’ For ‘by that Word of his, by that self, he created all this, whatever there is.’”

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	Panikkar also notes that “Vac was before all creation, preexisting before any being came to be.... Vac is the life-giving principle within all beings.... She has a feminine characteristic of complementarity, a mediatorial role, and a certain feminine docility and obedience. She needs always to be uttered, by men, by Gods, or by the Creator himself.... [The Vedic Word] is ultimately as important as Brahman and, in a way that has to be properly understood, it is Brahman itself.”<ref>Raimundo Panikkar, ''The Vedic Experience. Mantramañjari: An Anthology of the Vedas for Modern Man and Contemporary Celebration'' (Los Angeles: University of California Press, 1977), pp. 106, 96, 107, 89).</ref>		Panikkar also notes that “Vac was before all creation, preexisting before any being came to be.... Vac is the life-giving principle within all beings.... She has a feminine characteristic of complementarity, a mediatorial role, and a certain feminine docility and obedience. She needs always to be uttered, by men, by Gods, or by the Creator himself.... [The Vedic Word] is ultimately as important as Brahman and, in a way that has to be properly understood, it is Brahman itself.”<ref>Raimundo Panikkar, ''The Vedic Experience. Mantramañjari: An Anthology of the Vedas for Modern Man and Contemporary Celebration'' (Los Angeles: University of California Press, 1977), pp. 106, 96, 107, 89).</ref>

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	Panikkar also notes that “Vac was before all creation, preexisting before any being came to be.... Vac is the life-giving principle within all beings.... She has a feminine characteristic of complementarity, a mediatorial role, and a certain feminine docility and obedience. She needs always to be uttered, by men, by Gods, or by the Creator himself.... [The Vedic Word] is ultimately as important as Brahman and, in a way that has to be properly understood, it is Brahman itself.”<ref>Raimundo Panikkar, ''The Vedic Experience. Mantramañjari: An Anthology of the Vedas for Modern Man and Contemporary Celebration'' (Los Angeles: University of California Press, 1977), pp. 106, 96, 107, 89).</ref>		Panikkar also notes that “Vac was before all creation, preexisting before any being came to be.... Vac is the life-giving principle within all beings.... She has a feminine characteristic of complementarity, a mediatorial role, and a certain feminine docility and obedience. She needs always to be uttered, by men, by Gods, or by the Creator himself.... [The Vedic Word] is ultimately as important as Brahman and, in a way that has to be properly understood, it is Brahman itself.”<ref>Raimundo Panikkar, ''The Vedic Experience. Mantramañjari: An Anthology of the Vedas for Modern Man and Contemporary Celebration'' (Los Angeles: University of California Press, 1977), pp. 106, 96, 107, 89).</ref>

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	[[File:Papyrus 75a.gif\|thumb\|upright\|<translate>One of the earliest manuscripts of the Gospel of John</translate>]]		[[File:Papyrus 75a.gif\|thumb\|upright\|<translate><!--T:1--> One of the earliest manuscripts of the Gospel of John</translate>]]

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	The '''Word''' is the Logos; it is the power of God and the realization of that power incarnate in and as the [[Christ]].		The '''Word''' is the Logos; it is the power of God and the realization of that power incarnate in and as the [[Christ]].

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	The energies of the Word are released by devotees of the Logos in the ritual of the science of the [[spoken Word]]. It is through the Word that the [[Father-Mother God]] communicates with mankind. The Christ is the personification of the Word.		The energies of the Word are released by devotees of the Logos in the ritual of the science of the [[spoken Word]]. It is through the Word that the [[Father-Mother God]] communicates with mankind. The Christ is the personification of the Word.

	== The Word and ''Vac'' ==		== The Word and ''Vac'' == <!--T:4-->

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	The first verse of the Gospel of John says, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” This verse parallels the Hindu teachings on the cosmic Principle and Person of ''Vac'' (pronounced Vwahk; meaning literally “speech,” “word,” “voice,” “talk,” or “language”) as recorded in the [[Vedas]], the earliest scriptures of Hinduism, probably composed c. 1500-1000 <small>B</small>.<small>C</small>.		The first verse of the Gospel of John says, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” This verse parallels the Hindu teachings on the cosmic Principle and Person of ''Vac'' (pronounced Vwahk; meaning literally “speech,” “word,” “voice,” “talk,” or “language”) as recorded in the [[Vedas]], the earliest scriptures of Hinduism, probably composed c. 1500-1000 <small>B</small>.<small>C</small>.

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	The Hindu text Taittirya Brahmaa (Brahmaas are commentaries on the Vedas) says that “the Word, imperishable, is the Firstborn of Truth, mother of the Veda and hub of immortality.” Vac is called “the mother” of the Vedas because it is believed that [[Brahma]] revealed them through her power.		The Hindu text Taittirya Brahmaa (Brahmaas are commentaries on the Vedas) says that “the Word, imperishable, is the Firstborn of Truth, mother of the Veda and hub of immortality.” Vac is called “the mother” of the Vedas because it is believed that [[Brahma]] revealed them through her power.

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	The Taya Maha Brahmaa teaches, “This, [in the beginning], was only the Lord of the universe. His Word was with him. This Word was his second. He contemplated. He said, ‘I will deliver this Word so that she will produce and bring into being all this world’” (XX, 14, 2).		The Taya Maha Brahmaa teaches, “This, [in the beginning], was only the Lord of the universe. His Word was with him. This Word was his second. He contemplated. He said, ‘I will deliver this Word so that she will produce and bring into being all this world’” (XX, 14, 2).

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	Scholar John Woodroffe (pen name, Arthur Avalon) quotes John 1:1 and says:		Scholar John Woodroffe (pen name, Arthur Avalon) quotes John 1:1 and says:

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	<blockquote>These are the very words of Veda. ''Prajapatir vai idam ast'': In the beginning was Brahman. ''Tasya vag dvitya ast''; with whom was Vak or the Word (She is spoken of as second to Him because She is first potentially in, and then as [[Shakti]] issues from Him); ''Vag vai paramam Brahma''; and the word is Brahman. Vak is thus a Shakti or Power of the Brahman.... This Shakti which was in Him is at the creation with Him, and evolves into the form of the Universe whilst still remaining what It is—the Supreme Shakti” who is “one with Brahman.”<ref>Arthur Avalon, ''The Garland of Letters'' (Pondicherry, India: Ganesh & Co., n.d.), pp. 4–5.</ref></blockquote>		<blockquote>These are the very words of Veda. ''Prajapatir vai idam ast'': In the beginning was Brahman. ''Tasya vag dvitya ast''; with whom was Vak or the Word (She is spoken of as second to Him because She is first potentially in, and then as [[Shakti]] issues from Him); ''Vag vai paramam Brahma''; and the word is Brahman. Vak is thus a Shakti or Power of the Brahman.... This Shakti which was in Him is at the creation with Him, and evolves into the form of the Universe whilst still remaining what It is—the Supreme Shakti” who is “one with Brahman.”<ref>Arthur Avalon, ''The Garland of Letters'' (Pondicherry, India: Ganesh & Co., n.d.), pp. 4–5.</ref></blockquote>

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	Hindu texts refer to Vac as the wife or consort of the Creator “who contains within herself all worlds.” [[Sarasvati]], the consort of [[Brahma]] and goddess of language, speech, wisdom and art, is identified with Vac in the Mahabharata and later Hindu tradition. Quoting the Brahmaas, author Raimundo Panikkar writes that Vac “is truly ‘the womb of the universe.’ For ‘by that Word of his, by that self, he created all this, whatever there is.’”		Hindu texts refer to Vac as the wife or consort of the Creator “who contains within herself all worlds.” [[Sarasvati]], the consort of [[Brahma]] and goddess of language, speech, wisdom and art, is identified with Vac in the Mahabharata and later Hindu tradition. Quoting the Brahmaas, author Raimundo Panikkar writes that Vac “is truly ‘the womb of the universe.’ For ‘by that Word of his, by that self, he created all this, whatever there is.’”

	Panikkar also notes that “Vac was before all creation, preexisting before any being came to be.... Vac is the life-giving principle within all beings.... She has a feminine characteristic of complementarity, a mediatorial role, and a certain feminine docility and obedience. She needs always to be uttered, by men, by Gods, or by the Creator himself.... [The Vedic Word] is ultimately as important as Brahman and, in a way that has to be properly understood, it is Brahman itself.”<ref>Raimundo Panikkar, ''The Vedic Experience. Mantramañjari: An Anthology of the Vedas for Modern Man and Contemporary Celebration'' (Los Angeles: University of California Press, 1977), pp. 106, 96, 107, 89).</ref>		Panikkar also notes that “Vac was before all creation, preexisting before any being came to be.... Vac is the life-giving principle within all beings.... She has a feminine characteristic of complementarity, a mediatorial role, and a certain feminine docility and obedience. She needs always to be uttered, by men, by Gods, or by the Creator himself.... [The Vedic Word] is ultimately as important as Brahman and, in a way that has to be properly understood, it is Brahman itself.”<ref>Raimundo Panikkar, ''The Vedic Experience. Mantramañjari: An Anthology of the Vedas for Modern Man and Contemporary Celebration'' (Los Angeles: University of California Press, 1977), pp. 106, 96, 107, 89).</ref>

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	[[Spoken Word]]		[[Spoken Word]]

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	[[Decree]]		[[Decree]]

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	{{POWref\|31\|65\|, October 2, 1988}}		{{POWref\|31\|65\|, October 2, 1988}}
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	The '''Word''' is the Logos; it is the power of God and the realization of that power incarnate in and as the [[Christ]].		The '''Word''' is the Logos; it is the power of God and the realization of that power incarnate in and as the [[Christ]].

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	The Taya Maha Brahmaa teaches, “This, [in the beginning], was only the Lord of the universe. His Word was with him. This Word was his second. He contemplated. He said, ‘I will deliver this Word so that she will produce and bring into being all this world’” (XX, 14, 2).		The Taya Maha Brahmaa teaches, “This, [in the beginning], was only the Lord of the universe. His Word was with him. This Word was his second. He contemplated. He said, ‘I will deliver this Word so that she will produce and bring into being all this world’” (XX, 14, 2).

	Scholar John Woodroffe (pen name, Arthur Avalon) quotes John 1:1 and says: ~~“These~~ are the very words of Veda. ''Prajapatir vai idam ast'': In the beginning was Brahman. ''Tasya vag dvitya ast''; with whom was Vak or the Word (She is spoken of as second to Him because She is first potentially in, and then as [[Shakti]] issues from Him); ''Vag vai paramam Brahma''; and the word is Brahman. Vak is thus a Shakti or Power of the Brahman.... This Shakti which was in Him is at the creation with Him, and evolves into the form of the Universe whilst still remaining what It is—the Supreme Shakti” who is “one with Brahman.”<ref>Arthur Avalon, ''The Garland of Letters'' (Pondicherry, India: Ganesh & Co., n.d.), pp. 4–5.</ref>		Scholar John Woodroffe (pen name, Arthur Avalon) quotes John 1:1 and says:

			<blockquote>These are the very words of Veda. ''Prajapatir vai idam ast'': In the beginning was Brahman. ''Tasya vag dvitya ast''; with whom was Vak or the Word (She is spoken of as second to Him because She is first potentially in, and then as [[Shakti]] issues from Him); ''Vag vai paramam Brahma''; and the word is Brahman. Vak is thus a Shakti or Power of the Brahman.... This Shakti which was in Him is at the creation with Him, and evolves into the form of the Universe whilst still remaining what It is—the Supreme Shakti” who is “one with Brahman.”<ref>Arthur Avalon, ''The Garland of Letters'' (Pondicherry, India: Ganesh & Co., n.d.), pp. 4–5.</ref></blockquote>

	Hindu texts refer to Vac as the wife or consort of the Creator “who contains within herself all worlds.” [[Sarasvati]], the consort of [[Brahma]] and goddess of language, speech, wisdom and art, is identified with Vac in the Mahabharata and later Hindu tradition. Quoting the Brahmaas, author Raimundo Panikkar writes that Vac “is truly ‘the womb of the universe.’ For ‘by that Word of his, by that self, he created all this, whatever there is.’”		Hindu texts refer to Vac as the wife or consort of the Creator “who contains within herself all worlds.” [[Sarasvati]], the consort of [[Brahma]] and goddess of language, speech, wisdom and art, is identified with Vac in the Mahabharata and later Hindu tradition. Quoting the Brahmaas, author Raimundo Panikkar writes that Vac “is truly ‘the womb of the universe.’ For ‘by that Word of his, by that self, he created all this, whatever there is.’”

	Panikkar also notes that “Vac was before all creation, preexisting before any being came to be.... Vac is the life-giving principle within all beings.... She has a feminine characteristic of complementarity, a mediatorial role, and a certain feminine docility and obedience. She needs always to be uttered, by men, by Gods, or by the Creator himself....[The Vedic Word] is ultimately as important as Brahman and, in a way that has to be properly understood, it is Brahman itself.”<ref>Raimundo Panikkar, ''The Vedic Experience. Mantramañjari: An Anthology of the Vedas for Modern Man and Contemporary Celebration'' (Los Angeles: University of California Press, 1977), pp. 106, 96, 107, 89).</ref>		Panikkar also notes that “Vac was before all creation, preexisting before any being came to be.... Vac is the life-giving principle within all beings.... She has a feminine characteristic of complementarity, a mediatorial role, and a certain feminine docility and obedience. She needs always to be uttered, by men, by Gods, or by the Creator himself.... [The Vedic Word] is ultimately as important as Brahman and, in a way that has to be properly understood, it is Brahman itself.”<ref>Raimundo Panikkar, ''The Vedic Experience. Mantramañjari: An Anthology of the Vedas for Modern Man and Contemporary Celebration'' (Los Angeles: University of California Press, 1977), pp. 106, 96, 107, 89).</ref>

	== See also ==		== See also ==

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	The Taya Maha Brahmaa teaches, “This, [in the beginning], was only the Lord of the universe. His Word was with him. This Word was his second. He contemplated. He said, ‘I will deliver this Word so that she will produce and bring into being all this world’” (XX, 14, 2).		The Taya Maha Brahmaa teaches, “This, [in the beginning], was only the Lord of the universe. His Word was with him. This Word was his second. He contemplated. He said, ‘I will deliver this Word so that she will produce and bring into being all this world’” (XX, 14, 2).

	Scholar John Woodroffe (pen name, Arthur Avalon) quotes John 1:1 and says: “These are the very words of Veda. ''Prajapatir vai idam ast'': In the beginning was Brahman. ''Tasya vag dvitya ast''; with whom was Vak or the Word (She is spoken of as second to Him because She is first potentially in, and then as Shakti issues from Him); ''Vag vai paramam Brahma''; and the word is Brahman. Vak is thus a Shakti or Power of the Brahman.... This Shakti which was in Him is at the creation with Him, and evolves into the form of the Universe whilst still remaining what It is—the Supreme Shakti” who is “one with Brahman.”<ref>Arthur Avalon, ''The Garland of Letters'' (Pondicherry, India: Ganesh & Co., n.d.), pp. 4–5.</ref>		Scholar John Woodroffe (pen name, Arthur Avalon) quotes John 1:1 and says: “These are the very words of Veda. ''Prajapatir vai idam ast'': In the beginning was Brahman. ''Tasya vag dvitya ast''; with whom was Vak or the Word (She is spoken of as second to Him because She is first potentially in, and then as [[Shakti]] issues from Him); ''Vag vai paramam Brahma''; and the word is Brahman. Vak is thus a Shakti or Power of the Brahman.... This Shakti which was in Him is at the creation with Him, and evolves into the form of the Universe whilst still remaining what It is—the Supreme Shakti” who is “one with Brahman.”<ref>Arthur Avalon, ''The Garland of Letters'' (Pondicherry, India: Ganesh & Co., n.d.), pp. 4–5.</ref>

	Hindu texts refer to Vac as the wife or consort of the Creator “who contains within herself all worlds.” [[Sarasvati]], the consort of [[Brahma]] and goddess of language, speech, wisdom and art, is identified with Vac in the Mahabharata and later Hindu tradition. Quoting the Brahmaas, author Raimundo Panikkar writes that Vac “is truly ‘the womb of the universe.’ For ‘by that Word of his, by that self, he created all this, whatever there is.’”		Hindu texts refer to Vac as the wife or consort of the Creator “who contains within herself all worlds.” [[Sarasvati]], the consort of [[Brahma]] and goddess of language, speech, wisdom and art, is identified with Vac in the Mahabharata and later Hindu tradition. Quoting the Brahmaas, author Raimundo Panikkar writes that Vac “is truly ‘the womb of the universe.’ For ‘by that Word of his, by that self, he created all this, whatever there is.’”

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	Scholar John Woodroffe (pen name, Arthur Avalon) quotes John 1:1 and says: “These are the very words of Veda. ''Prajapatir vai idam ast'': In the beginning was Brahman. ''Tasya vag dvitya ast''; with whom was Vak or the Word (She is spoken of as second to Him because She is first potentially in, and then as Shakti issues from Him); ''Vag vai paramam Brahma''; and the word is Brahman. Vak is thus a Shakti or Power of the Brahman.... This Shakti which was in Him is at the creation with Him, and evolves into the form of the Universe whilst still remaining what It is—the Supreme Shakti” who is “one with Brahman.”<ref>Arthur Avalon, ''The Garland of Letters'' (Pondicherry, India: Ganesh & Co., n.d.), pp. 4–5.</ref>		Scholar John Woodroffe (pen name, Arthur Avalon) quotes John 1:1 and says: “These are the very words of Veda. ''Prajapatir vai idam ast'': In the beginning was Brahman. ''Tasya vag dvitya ast''; with whom was Vak or the Word (She is spoken of as second to Him because She is first potentially in, and then as Shakti issues from Him); ''Vag vai paramam Brahma''; and the word is Brahman. Vak is thus a Shakti or Power of the Brahman.... This Shakti which was in Him is at the creation with Him, and evolves into the form of the Universe whilst still remaining what It is—the Supreme Shakti” who is “one with Brahman.”<ref>Arthur Avalon, ''The Garland of Letters'' (Pondicherry, India: Ganesh & Co., n.d.), pp. 4–5.</ref>

	Hindu texts refer to Vac as the wife or consort of the Creator “who contains within herself all worlds.” Sarasvati, the consort of Brahma and goddess of language, speech, wisdom and art, is identified with Vac in the Mahabharata and later Hindu tradition. Quoting the Brahmaas, author Raimundo Panikkar writes that Vac “is truly ‘the womb of the universe.’ For ‘by that Word of his, by that self, he created all this, whatever there is.’”		Hindu texts refer to Vac as the wife or consort of the Creator “who contains within herself all worlds.” [[Sarasvati]], the consort of [[Brahma]] and goddess of language, speech, wisdom and art, is identified with Vac in the Mahabharata and later Hindu tradition. Quoting the Brahmaas, author Raimundo Panikkar writes that Vac “is truly ‘the womb of the universe.’ For ‘by that Word of his, by that self, he created all this, whatever there is.’”

	Panikkar also notes that “Vac was before all creation, preexisting before any being came to be.... Vac is the life-giving principle within all beings.... She has a feminine characteristic of complementarity, a mediatorial role, and a certain feminine docility and obedience. She needs always to be uttered, by men, by Gods, or by the Creator himself....[The Vedic Word] is ultimately as important as Brahman and, in a way that has to be properly understood, it is Brahman itself.”<ref>Raimundo Panikkar, ''The Vedic Experience. Mantramañjari: An Anthology of the Vedas for Modern Man and Contemporary Celebration'' (Los Angeles: University of California Press, 1977), pp. 106, 96, 107, 89).</ref>		Panikkar also notes that “Vac was before all creation, preexisting before any being came to be.... Vac is the life-giving principle within all beings.... She has a feminine characteristic of complementarity, a mediatorial role, and a certain feminine docility and obedience. She needs always to be uttered, by men, by Gods, or by the Creator himself....[The Vedic Word] is ultimately as important as Brahman and, in a way that has to be properly understood, it is Brahman itself.”<ref>Raimundo Panikkar, ''The Vedic Experience. Mantramañjari: An Anthology of the Vedas for Modern Man and Contemporary Celebration'' (Los Angeles: University of California Press, 1977), pp. 106, 96, 107, 89).</ref>